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Google Says Page Experience Is A Ranking Signal, Not A Ranking System

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Google is now saying that page experience, mobile-friendliness, page speed, and secure site are ranking “signals” but were never ranking “systems.” “It just meant these weren’t ranking *systems* but instead signals used by other systems,” Danny Sullivan, Google’s Search Liaison, said this morning on Twitter.

The confusion came after Google removed several ranking systems from its help documentation. As a reminder, Google recently removed the page experience system from the main list, not adding it to the retired list, and removed mobile-friendly ranking, page speed, and secure sites systems from the retired list from this help document.

Additional confusion came when Google made changes to its helpful content page specific to page experience when Google also changed this ranking system help document page. There Google wropte that page experience was just a “concept. Google posted, “What does this mean for the “page experience update”? The page experience update was a concept to describe a set of key page experience aspects for site owners to focus on. In particular, it introduced Core Web Vitals as a new signal that our core ranking systems considered, along with other page experience signals such as HTTPS that they’d already been considering. It was not a separate ranking system, and it did not combine all these signals into one single “page experience” signal.”

Now, Danny Sullivan posted a long answer on Twitter saying, “Taking them off didn’t mean we no longer consider aspects of page experience. It just meant these weren’t ranking *systems* but instead signals used by other systems.”

The ranking system page changed because “in hindsight, the various page experience “updates” we’ve had became systems and were added when, as signals, they shouldn’t have been,” he said. “So when we updated our page experience guidance last week, we also updated the systems page to no longer list these things that weren’t actually systems but signals,” Sullivan added.

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“As to the confusion that’s come up, we didn’t direct people to review the ranking systems page last week as part of our guidance about page experience. It wouldn’t have made sense. We dropped the systems that were actually signals so that if people did go to that page in the future, they wouldn’t (hopefully) get confused,” Sullivan added.

“Google’s core ranking systems look to reward content that provides a good page experience,” is the take away from this, Danny Sullivan added.

So page experience is a ranking “signal,” not a ranking “system,” and considered a “concept”

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Our guidance on page experience is here, as we shared last week along with our blog post:
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/appearance/page-experience

It does *not* say page experience is somehow “retired” or that people should ignore things like Core Web Vitals or being mobile-friendly. The opposite. It says if you want to be successful with the core ranking systems of Google Search, consider these and other aspects of page experience.

We also made an update to our page on ranking systems last week. Ranking *systems* are different than ranking *signals* (systems typically make use of signals). We had some things listed on that page relating to page experience as “systems” that were actually signals. They shouldn’t have been on the page about systems. Taking them off didn’t mean we no longer consider aspects of page experience. It just meant these weren’t ranking *systems* but instead signals used by other systems.

How did they end up on the page in the first place? Last year, we stopped used the term “update” as being synonymous with “systems” — this post explains more about that: https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2022/11/introducing-guide-to-ranking-systems

In making the page, we looked at a number of “updates” we’ve had over the past year and converted describing those as systems. In hindsight, the various page experience “updates” we’ve had became systems and were added when, as signals, they shouldn’t have been. So when we updated our page experience guidance last week, we also updated the systems page to no longer list these things that weren’t actually systems but signals.

As to the confusion that’s come up, we didn’t direct people to review the ranking systems page last week as part of our guidance about page experience. It wouldn’t have made sense. We dropped the systems that were actually signals so that if people did go to that page in the future, they wouldn’t (hopefully) get confused.

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Instead, we did a blog post explaining things people should care about, along with an updated page about page experience, and both of these had FAQs. Here’s the blog post again: https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2023/04/page-experience-in-search

The big takeaway? As our guidance on page experience says in the first sentence:

“Google’s core ranking systems look to reward content that provides a good page experience.”

Hope this helps clarify things more.

Are you less confused now?

Forum discussion at Twitter.

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Daily Search Forum Recap: April 19, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Google is testing more ad formats for its search ads. BingBot is testing new compression methods. Google said it is unlikely your rankings would drop just because you have two or more sites. Google says the indexing API might work for unsupported formats. Google said hyphenated domains are not bad by themselves. And I posted the weekly SEO video recap.

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Daily Search Forum Recap: April 18, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Google Ads notified advertisers that some ad customizers will stop working soon. Google discontinued the limited use video carousel markup. Google Maps has new directions and travel features, plus a bunch of new EV features. Google Notes on Search might not end in May 2024 despite what people suggest. Google Business Profiles asked businesses to register their defibrillators, their AEDs.


Search Engine Roundtable Stories:


  • Google Notes On Search Won’t Necessarily Go Away In May


    There have been some people noticing that the Google Notes On Search labs experiment has an end date of May 2024 and thus they are expecting Notes on Search to be turned off by then. Just because it has that end date listed, it does not mean the labs experiment will end on that date.

  • Google Maps Releases New Directions, Travel & EV Features


    Google has announced a number of new travel features with Google Maps and Travel around driving alternatives, trains and buses, travel impact mode and then some new EV driving direction features. Google says these features are to give you more “sustainable choices.”

  • Google Ads Reminds Advertisers Some Ad Customizers Will Go Away May 31st


    On August 31, 2021, Google notified advertisers it would drop support for expanded text ads for responsive search ads. Google is now reminding advertisers that Ad customizers for text ads, expanded text ads and Dynamic Search Ads will stop serving after May 31, 2024.

  • Google Drops Video Carousel Markup


    Google has discontinued its support for video carousel markup and has thus removed it from its video structured data help documentation. Initially, Google tested video carousel on a limited number of sites and is now saying that it “ultimately found that it wasn’t useful for the ecosystem at scale.”

  • Google Business Profiles Register Your Defibrillator (AED)


    Google sent out emails a couple of days ago to businesses asking them to register their Automated External Defibrillator (AED) with Google Business Profiles. Google said, “you could save lives” if you do it.



  • Google NYC Earthquake Reaction Video


    A couple of weeks ago we had an earthquake in the New York region and I finally found a video from the Google NYC office of the reaction of some Googlers while the earthquake happened. These Googlers were recording a video and felt it but were unsure if that was a real earthquake.

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Daily Search Forum Recap: April 17, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


The Google March core update still is causing volatility and it is deepening. Google may make changes to the crawl stats report in Search Console. Google Search Console now shows unused ownership tokens. Google Maps will drop the review drafts. Google Add added generative AI for image generate for Demand Gen campaigns. Google Search is testing more sitelinks designs.


Search Engine Roundtable Stories:


  • Deepening Google Core Ranking Volatility Hits Yesterday & Today


    I know we just reported on more volatility this Monday, possibly related to the Google March 2024 core update, but we are seeing even more volatility over the past 24 hours related to this update. This volatility shows deepening movement for those who were hit, which is incredibly sad in many cases.

  • Google Search Console Adds Unused Ownership Tokens


    Google Search Console has a new security feature under user and permission management to help you manage your unused ownership tokens. Basically, it helps you manage who has permissions to your Search Console profiles and who should not, maybe some legacy verifications.


  • Google: Should We Explain The Crawl Stats Report in Search Console


    Martin Splitt from Google posted a one-line question asking, “Should we do something to explain the crawl stats report in GSC?” This was posted on Mastodon, which has a small audience, but the responses were pretty good.

  • New Google Ads AI Generated Image Tool For Demand Gen Campaigns


    Google Ads announced that Demand Gen campaigns are getting generative AI tools to create image assets. This is rolling out to advertisers around the world in English with more languages to come later this year, Google said.


  • Google Tests Horizontal Lines For Sitelinks & People Also Ask


    Google Search is testing horizontal lines under the sitelinks and the people also ask elements in the search results. This is a long horizontal line that goes across the while search result snippet.

  • Google Maps No Longer Will Support Draft Reviews


    Google Maps will soon stop supporting drafting reviews for local business listings and Google Business Profiles. Google said that starting July 16, 2024, review drafts will no longer be supported.

  • Doogler In Google Play Area


    Some of you love photos of dogs, so here is another one of a Doogler, a Google dog, in a play area, at the Google office. This was shared by the Life at Google Twitter account.

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