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Why Google Discover Traffic Goes Away via @sejournal, @martinibuster



Google’s John Mueller answered an Office-hours hangout question about the reasons why Google Discover traffic might all of a sudden stop. His answered covered ways to diagnose on-page issues and content policy violations unique to Google Discover.

Google Discover

Google Discover is a source of traffic to websites that is different from search-related traffic from Google. For users it’s a highly personalized feed of articles that match user interests.

If a user searches for content about baking then Google’s algorithms will begin to surface related content through the Google Discover feature.

For users who are interested in entertainment content Google Discover shows content from entertainment websites.

The key to understanding Google Discover is understanding that the traffic sent by Discover is dependent on how well a website’s content matches user interest in a topic.

So it’s important to clearly communicate what a web page is about from within the title tag and headings so that Google can understand what the page is about and match it to users interested in that specific kind of content.


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The question:

“We noticed a big problem with Google Discover on our website. In two days traffic had dropped by some 70%.

It has dropped to a certain level and has been stable on that level for some time.

We’re wondering if we did something wrong or was it an update or something.

Can you clarify as to what exactly happened since it’s such a drastic drop.”

John Mueller Explains Google Discover Traffic

John Mueller first clarified that he could not comment specifically about the persons website since he didn’t know it and thus his answer would be more general.

Mueller commented on Google Discover traffic:

“I anecdotally get reports from a lot of people that Discover traffic is very… either on or off in the sense that there’s very little kind of room in between if our algorithms determine we’re not going to show much content from this website in Discover at the moment.

Then basically all of that traffic disappears.

And in the other way it’s the same thing where if we do show something from your website in Discover then suddenly you have that big rush of traffic again.”


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John Mueller Explaining Google Discover Traffic

Image of Google's John Mueller explaining traffic from Google Discover

Image of Google's John Mueller explaining traffic from Google Discover

The person asking the question followed up by stating that the website had previously received stable Discover traffic for a period of four straight months prior to all of a sudden virtually collapsing within the space of two days.

He wanted to know if there might be a technical error causing Google Discover to stop sending traffic.

Why Google Discover Stops Sending Traffic

Mueller explains about diagnosing for technical issues then moves on to discussing Discover content policies.

John Mueller answered:

“If it’s a technical issue then you would see that in web search as well and you would see crawl issues showing up.

I don’t have full insight into exactly what happens in Discover but usually the issues that I see people talking about are on the one hand quality issues where maybe the quality of the website is not so good and with regards to the individual policies that we have for discover.

So in particular for Discover we have some policies that are different from Web Search and recommendations that are a bit different with regards to I think like adult content, click-baity content, things like that.

That’s all mentioned in the help center page that we have for Discover.

And sometimes I suspect… uh… like I imagine a lot of websites have a little bit of a mix of all of these kind of things and I suspect sometimes our algorithms just find a little bit too much and then they say, oh like we have to be careful now with this website.

So… without knowing your website and without knowing the details of what exactly Discover is picking up there that’s kind of the direction I would head there.”


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John Mueller next advised the person asking the question to seek out articles written by SEOs about what kinds of content performs well with Discover to gain more insights.

Mueller continued his answer:

“From our point of view, Discover is something where we try to show a stream of information to people and because of that we tend to not have a lot of detailed information on what exactly you need to provide there to perform really well.

So sometimes it makes sense to look at what other people have figured out.”

Several Reasons for Loss of Discover Traffic

Google’s John Mueller suggested two possible reasons for a loss of Google Discover traffic.

  1. Website Quality Problem
  2. Google Discover Content Policy Violations

Website Quality Problems

Website quality issues can be a great deal of things but it may be, similar to what Mueller suggested, that if there’s no change in regular search rankings that a site quality issue might not be the cause.


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Google Discover Content Policy

Publishers should become acquainted with Discover Content Policy Violations in order to avoid negatively affecting Google Discover traffic, as there are a number of topics that are forbidden.

In addition to violence, explicit or hateful content, there are other categories of content violations to look out for.

  • Ads can’t exceed content
  • Affiliate relationships must be clearly stated
  • Misleading titles that promise one thing and don’t deliver in the content itself
  • Transparency in relations to author bylines, publication, publisher, contact information, and publication dates

Other important content violations to be aware of is the prohibition on click bait titles that mislead, content designed to outrage and push emotional buttons and what Google describes as “morbid curiosity” among other things.


The main takeaway about Google Discover content is that it’s not necessarily dependable to the relative degree that ranked content in search is.

Google Discover traffic is based on user interests. For example, if user interest in your content is seasonal, like travel, then that traffic might begin to dry up in the fall after vacation season is over.


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Google’s Official Discover Policy Violation Page

Discover content policies

Google Discover Documentation

Discover and your website

Why Google Discover Traffic Dries Up

Watch at 47:05 Minute Mark

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OpenAI Introduces ChatGPT Plus with Monthly Subscription of $20



Open AI - Chat GPT

OpenAI, the leading artificial intelligence research laboratory, has launched a new product – ChatGPT Plus. The new product is an advanced version of its previous language model, ChatGPT, and is available for a monthly subscription of $20. The company aims to provide a more sophisticated and efficient conversational AI tool to its users through this new product.

ChatGPT Plus is a state-of-the-art language model that uses advanced deep learning algorithms to generate human-like responses to text inputs. The model has been trained on a massive corpus of text data, allowing it to generate coherent and contextually relevant responses. The model is designed to handle a wide range of conversational topics and can be integrated into various applications, such as chatbots, customer support systems, and virtual assistants.

One of the main advantages of ChatGPT Plus over its predecessor, ChatGPT, is its ability to generate responses in a more human-like manner. The model has been fine-tuned to incorporate more advanced language processing techniques, which enable it to better understand the context and tone of a conversation. This makes it possible for the model to generate more nuanced and appropriate responses, which can greatly improve the user experience.

In addition to its advanced language processing capabilities, ChatGPT Plus also offers improved performance in terms of response generation speed and efficiency. The model has been optimized to run on faster hardware and has been fine-tuned to generate responses more quickly. This makes it possible for the model to handle a larger volume of requests, making it an ideal solution for businesses with high traffic websites or customer support centers.

The monthly subscription fee of $20 for ChatGPT Plus makes it an affordable solution for businesses of all sizes. The company has designed the pricing model in such a way that it is accessible to businesses of all sizes, regardless of their budget. This makes it possible for small businesses to take advantage of advanced conversational AI technology, which can greatly improve their customer engagement and support.

OpenAI has also made it easy to integrate ChatGPT Plus into various applications. The company has provided a comprehensive API that allows developers to easily integrate the model into their applications. The API supports a wide range of programming languages, making it possible for developers to use the technology regardless of their preferred programming language. This makes it possible for businesses to quickly and easily incorporate conversational AI into their operations.

In conclusion, OpenAI’s launch of ChatGPT Plus is a significant development in the field of conversational AI. The new product offers advanced language processing capabilities and improved performance, making it an ideal solution for businesses of all sizes. The affordable pricing model and easy integration make it accessible to businesses of all sizes, and the advanced language processing capabilities make it possible for businesses to improve their customer engagement and support. OpenAI’s ChatGPT Plus is set to revolutionize the conversational AI industry and bring advanced technology within the reach of businesses of all sizes.

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What can ChatGPT do?



ChatGPT Explained

ChatGPT is a large language model developed by OpenAI that is trained on a massive amount of text data. It is capable of generating human-like text and has been used in a variety of applications, such as chatbots, language translation, and text summarization.

One of the key features of ChatGPT is its ability to generate text that is similar to human writing. This is achieved through the use of a transformer architecture, which allows the model to understand the context and relationships between words in a sentence. The transformer architecture is a type of neural network that is designed to process sequential data, such as natural language.

Another important aspect of ChatGPT is its ability to generate text that is contextually relevant. This means that the model is able to understand the context of a conversation and generate responses that are appropriate to the conversation. This is accomplished by the use of a technique called “masked language modeling,” which allows the model to predict the next word in a sentence based on the context of the previous words.

One of the most popular applications of ChatGPT is in the creation of chatbots. Chatbots are computer programs that simulate human conversation and can be used in customer service, sales, and other applications. ChatGPT is particularly well-suited for this task because of its ability to generate human-like text and understand context.

Another application of ChatGPT is language translation. By training the model on a large amount of text data in multiple languages, it can be used to translate text from one language to another. The model is able to understand the meaning of the text and generate a translation that is grammatically correct and semantically equivalent.

In addition to chatbots and language translation, ChatGPT can also be used for text summarization. This is the process of taking a large amount of text and condensing it into a shorter, more concise version. ChatGPT is able to understand the main ideas of the text and generate a summary that captures the most important information.

Despite its many capabilities and applications, ChatGPT is not without its limitations. One of the main challenges with using language models like ChatGPT is the risk of generating text that is biased or offensive. This can occur when the model is trained on text data that contains biases or stereotypes. To address this, OpenAI has implemented a number of techniques to reduce bias in the training data and in the model itself.

In conclusion, ChatGPT is a powerful language model that is capable of generating human-like text and understanding context. It has a wide range of applications, including chatbots, language translation, and text summarization. While there are limitations to its use, ongoing research and development is aimed at improving the model’s performance and reducing the risk of bias.

** The above article has been written 100% by ChatGPT. This is an example of what can be done with AI. This was done to show the advanced text that can be written by an automated AI.

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Google December Product Reviews Update Affects More Than English Language Sites? via @sejournal, @martinibuster



Google’s Product Reviews update was announced to be rolling out to the English language. No mention was made as to if or when it would roll out to other languages. Mueller answered a question as to whether it is rolling out to other languages.

Google December 2021 Product Reviews Update

On December 1, 2021, Google announced on Twitter that a Product Review update would be rolling out that would focus on English language web pages.

The focus of the update was for improving the quality of reviews shown in Google search, specifically targeting review sites.

A Googler tweeted a description of the kinds of sites that would be targeted for demotion in the search rankings:

“Mainly relevant to sites that post articles reviewing products.

Think of sites like “best TVs under $200″.com.

Goal is to improve the quality and usefulness of reviews we show users.”


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Google also published a blog post with more guidance on the product review update that introduced two new best practices that Google’s algorithm would be looking for.

The first best practice was a requirement of evidence that a product was actually handled and reviewed.

The second best practice was to provide links to more than one place that a user could purchase the product.

The Twitter announcement stated that it was rolling out to English language websites. The blog post did not mention what languages it was rolling out to nor did the blog post specify that the product review update was limited to the English language.

Google’s Mueller Thinking About Product Reviews Update

Screenshot of Google's John Mueller trying to recall if December Product Review Update affects more than the English language

Screenshot of Google's John Mueller trying to recall if December Product Review Update affects more than the English language

Product Review Update Targets More Languages?

The person asking the question was rightly under the impression that the product review update only affected English language search results.


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But he asserted that he was seeing search volatility in the German language that appears to be related to Google’s December 2021 Product Review Update.

This is his question:

“I was seeing some movements in German search as well.

So I was wondering if there could also be an effect on websites in other languages by this product reviews update… because we had lots of movement and volatility in the last weeks.

…My question is, is it possible that the product reviews update affects other sites as well?”

John Mueller answered:

“I don’t know… like other languages?

My assumption was this was global and and across all languages.

But I don’t know what we announced in the blog post specifically.

But usually we try to push the engineering team to make a decision on that so that we can document it properly in the blog post.

I don’t know if that happened with the product reviews update. I don’t recall the complete blog post.

But it’s… from my point of view it seems like something that we could be doing in multiple languages and wouldn’t be tied to English.

And even if it were English initially, it feels like something that is relevant across the board, and we should try to find ways to roll that out to other languages over time as well.

So I’m not particularly surprised that you see changes in Germany.

But I also don’t know what we actually announced with regards to the locations and languages that are involved.”

Does Product Reviews Update Affect More Languages?

While the tweeted announcement specified that the product reviews update was limited to the English language the official blog post did not mention any such limitations.

Google’s John Mueller offered his opinion that the product reviews update is something that Google could do in multiple languages.

One must wonder if the tweet was meant to communicate that the update was rolling out first in English and subsequently to other languages.

It’s unclear if the product reviews update was rolled out globally to more languages. Hopefully Google will clarify this soon.


Google Blog Post About Product Reviews Update

Product reviews update and your site

Google’s New Product Reviews Guidelines

Write high quality product reviews

John Mueller Discusses If Product Reviews Update Is Global

Watch Mueller answer the question at the 14:00 Minute Mark

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