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Best To Have Google Discover Your New Site With External Links Over URL Submission

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Best To Have Google Discover Your New Site With External Links Over URL Submission

Google’s John Mueller said there is nothing wrong with using the Google Search Console URL inspection tool to request indexing but the better route is to have Google discover those new URLs on that new site through external links. Google said it is simply better to have links to the site and for Google to pick up the site that way.

John Mueller told me that on last Friday’s hangout at the 7:56 mark into the video. I explained that I started a brand new blog, not on SEO (I have two of those already). The blog is named Lucid Insider – it is on the topic of the new EV maker, Lucid Motors and its first EV sedan named the Lucid Air. So I started the blog a couple weeks ago mostly because I wanted to start something brand new from scratch again and see how it goes. It will help me with context for my SEO writing, of course, but also will be fun to just start something new.

So I asked John if he recommends you submit new URLs as you publish them through the Google Search Console URL Inspection tool, request indexing feature? This is for a new blog, with no links to it, with an XML sitemap.

John responded that links are the best method (hence the link above) to get Google to index your content. He said “there is no disadvantage” to using the request indexing feature. He said “If it is a new site that we have no signals and no information about it at all, then at least telling us about the URL is a way of getting the initial foot in the door. But it is not a guarantee that we will pick it up.”

Then he joked that I do know some blogs that I can link from, saying “so that is something where probably you know someone else who is blogging and you can kind of work together with them and maybe get a link to your site – something along those lines. That will probably do a lot more than going to Search Console any saying I want this URL indexed.”

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So I said, nah, I want to see this happen naturally. So this might be the first link to the Lucid Insider blog but it is getting traffic right now through social media. The Lucid community reminds me of the early days of the SEO community – so the insiders know about the blog now.

Here is the video embed of this 90 second conversation:

Forum discussion at YouTube Community.


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Google Won’t Change The 301 Signals For Ranking & SEO

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Gary Illyes from Google said on stage at the SERP conference last week that there is no way that Google would change how the 301 redirect signal works for SEO or search rankings. Gary added that it’s a very reliable signal.

Nikola Minkov quoted Gary Illyes as saying, “It is a very reliable signal, and there is no way we could change that signal,” when asked if a 301 redirect not working is a myth. Honestly, I am not sure the context of this question, as it is not clear from the post on X, but here it is:

We’ve covered 301 redirects here countless times – but I never saw a myth that Google does not use 301 redirects as a signal for canonicalization or for passing signals from an old URL to the redirected URL.

Forum discussion at X.

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Note: This was pre-written and scheduled to be posted today, I am currently offline for Passover.



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Google Again Says Ignore Link Spam Especially To 404 Pages

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I am not sure how many times Google has said that you do not need to disavow spammy links, that you can ignore link spam attacks and that links pointing to pages that 404/410 are links that do not count – but John Mueller from Google said it again.

In a thread on X, John Mueller from Google wrote, “if the links are going to URLs that 404 on your site, they’re already dropped.” “They do nothing,” he added, “If there’s no indexable destination URL, there’s no link.”

John then added, “I’d generally ignore link-spam, and definitely ignore link-spam to 404s.”

Asking if it would hurt to disavow, after responding with the messages above, John wrote:

It will do absolutely nothing. I would take the time to rework a holistic & forward-looking strategy for the site overall instead of working on incremental tweaks (other tweaks might do something, but you probably need real change, not tweaks).

Earlier this year we had tons of SEOs notice spammy links to 404 error pages, John said ignore them. In 2021, Google said links to 404 pages do not count, Google also said that in 2012 and many other times.

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Plus, outside of links to 404 pages, Google has said to ignore spammy links, time and time again – even the toxic links – ignore them. The messaging around this changed in 2016 when Penguin 4.0 was released and Google began devaluing links over demoting them.

Here are those new posts in context:

And in general, Google says it ignores spammy links, so you should too (not new) but this post from John Mueller is:

And then also on Mastodon wrote about a similar situation, “Google has 2 decades of practice of ignoring spammy links. There’s no need to do anything for those links.”

Forum discussion at X.

Note: This was pre-written and scheduled to be posted today, I am currently offline for Passover.

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Google Needs Very Few Links To Rank Pages; Links Are Less Important

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Gary Illyes from Google spoke at the SERP Conf on Friday and he said what he said numerous times before, that Google values links a lot less today than it did in the past. He added that Google Search “needs very few links to rank pages.”

Gary reportedly said, “We need very few links to rank pages… Over the years we’ve made links less important.”

I am quoting Patrick Stox who is quoting what he heard Gary say on stage at the event. Here is Patrick’s post where Gary did a rare reply:

Gary said this a year ago, also in 2022 and other times as well. We previously covered that Google said links would likely become even less important in the future. And even Matt Cutts, the former Googler, said something similar about eight years ago and the truth is, links are weighted a lot less than it was eight years ago and that trend continues. A couple of years ago, Google said links are not the most important Google search ranking factor.

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Of course, many SEOs think Google lies about this.

Judith Lewis interviewed Gary Illyes at the SERP Conf this past Friday.

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