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Will Google Confirm A Future Algorithm Update?
With all these unconfirmed Google search ranking updates over the past couple of months and the Google results being super volatile, we are all asking when Google will confirm the next Google search update.
The last confirmed update was the April 2023 reviews update, so it has been three months since Google confirmed an update – which is a long time for Google.
So what hints can we find from official Google representatives on if Google will confirm a new update and when?
Well, John Mueller of Google isn’t known from dropping hints on Google updates but he did say yesterday on Twitter, “We tend not to preannounce them. They’re ready when they’re ready.”
We tend not to preannounce them. They’re ready when they’re ready.
— John Mueller (official) · Not #30D (@JohnMu) July 13, 2023
So maybe John is saying they will confirm one when there is one to confirm.
But also we had Danny Sullivan, Google’s Search Liaison, post a tweet and then delete it shortly later, where he wrote, “There’s always another core update in the banana stand. No news to share on when exactly the next one will come, but there will be one, of course.”
He deleted that tweet, for some reason.
He did joke and didn’t delete his tweet when I asked about it:
It’s coming in….
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) July 11, 2023
In any event, I am as surprised as all of you that Google has not confirmed another search update in three months but I suspect we should hear about a confirmed update soon.
Forum discussion at Twitter.
Update: Danny Sullivan clarified, we will always get another update:
Yes, there’s always another core update in the banana stand — and we announce these. We didn’t make pages about the core, spam, product and helpful content systems that regularly update for no reason. They link into the search status board to keep people informed… pic.twitter.com/dKxwYRLUqH
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) July 14, 2023
And why did the tweet disappear?
As for the mystery deleted tweet you mentioned, I’d shared that originally the previous day but Twitter’s iOS meant it never went out. Then it did a day later, and I noticed the banana stand GIF didn’t have the right caption. So I deleted it within a few seconds, because you…
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) July 14, 2023
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Google’s Site Reputation Abuse Policy Is Not Algorithmic Yet
Google has once again said that its enforcement of the site reputation abuse policy is still only being done through manual actions and not algorithmically. Danny Sullivan, Google’s Search Liasion, said this on X yesterday, “We have not gone live with algorithmic actions on site reputation abuse.”
Sullivan added that “when we do, we’ll be very clear about that.” Meaning, when Google starts to enforce the site reputation abuse policy through algorithmic means, Google will announce it somewhere. Likely on the its search status page.
As a reminder, Sullivan said this on May 6th on X, as we covered back then. He wrote then, “we’re only doing manual actions right now. The algorithmic component will indeed come, as we’ve said, but that’s not live yet.” So the algorithmic component 18 days later is still not live.
Sullivan added:
Publishers seeing changes and thinking it’s this — it’s not — results change all the time for all types of reasons. The actions currently only also impact the content being actions, not the entire site, as the action notices I believe make clear.
This was in response to some SEOs saying that the site reputation abuse policy is algorithmic now. Google is saying no, it is not.
Here is that post:
We have not gone live with algorithmic actions on site reputation abuse. I well imagine when we do, we’ll be very clear about that. Publishers seeing changes and thinking it’s this — it’s not — results change all the time for all types of reasons. The actions currently only…
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) May 23, 2024
Google did say the site reputation abuse policy would be enforced both algorithmically and through manual actions but when it first went live, it was only enforced using manual actions.
As a reminder, site reputation abuse “is when third-party pages are published with little or no first-party oversight or involvement, where the purpose is to manipulate Search rankings by taking advantage of the first-party site’s ranking signals,” Chris Nelson from the Google Search Quality team wrote. This includes sponsored, advertising, partner, or other third-party pages that are typically independent of a host site’s main purpose or produced without close oversight or involvement of the host site, and provide little to no value to users, he explained.
Here is more commentary on this topic from yesterday:
I don’t know what that chart is based on. Third-party visibility stats? Or is this data from each site reported directly from Search Console? But beyond that, again, we’ve not added an algorithmic component for site reputation abuse. What I said in my original response is still…
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) May 23, 2024
Yes, that’s entirely coincidental. We’ve only taken manual actions.
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) May 23, 2024
Thank you. It definitely has not rolled out.
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) May 23, 2024
It’s not an update. It was a new spam policy that came into effect as of that day. We began manual actions the next day. We’re only doing manual actions on this, at the moment.
— Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) May 23, 2024
I should add, there is a lot of confusion around a lof of the ranking volatility over the past few weeks. There was a lot of unconfirmed Google updates in the past few weeks that really shuffled things around in the Google search results.
Forum discussion at X.
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Google Ranking Volatility, Ads In Google AI Overviews, Sundar Pichai Interview, Heartfelt Helpful Content & More Ad News
We had more Google search ranking volatility in the middle of the week after some calming for a few days. Google Ads will soon show within the Google AI Overview, plus we covered a lot more ad news. Sundar Pichai was interviewed, and we broke it down. Bing lets you turn off its AI Copilot answers in the search results, but Google still does not. There are many poor-quality AI Overviews, and now there is a way to find a lot of them. Google said it is working on surfacing more heartfelt, helpful content in Search. Google is testing a special snippet treatment for Reddit. Google Search Console is showing a weird surge in the search performance reports for product snippets. Google and Bing recommend you upgrade to WordPress 6.5 because it supports lastmod dates in sitemaps. Google’s site reputation abuse policy enforcement is still not algorithmic. Google Lens now shows richer and links to sites. Google added more visual knowledge panel source information. Google can now index epub formats. Bing went down this week, taking down ChatGPT search, DuckDuckGo, Copilot, and more services. Bing is testing tags filters in its search results. Apple Maps can permanently close a business if the hours and address are missing or don’t match. GA4 real-time reports now show users in the last 5 minutes. That was the search news this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.
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Daily Search Forum Recap: May 24, 2024
Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.
Google’s site reputation abuse policy is still not algorithmically enforced. Google Search can now index EPUB formats. There is a neat place to follow all the embarrassing Google AI Overview examples. Google Analytics 4 adds real-time metrics in the past 5 minutes. Google Search has new profiles for looking at reviews and notes. And I posted thew weekly SEO video recap.
Search Engine Roundtable Stories:
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Google: The Site Reputation Abuse Policy Enforcement Not Yet Algorithmic
Google has once again said that its enforcement of the site reputation abuse policy is still only being done through manual actions and not algorithmically. Danny Sullivan, Google’s Search Liasion, said this on X yesterday, “We have not gone live with algorithmic actions on site reputation abuse.” -
Directory Of Embarrassing Google AI Overviews
Every day now, I see several screenshots on X of embarrassing and sometimes harmful AI Overviews within the Google Search results interface. I mean, we covered the one that recommends you drink urine, but I can’t cover each and every one I see – there are just too many. -
Google Analytics Real-Time Reports Adds Users In Last 5 Minutes
Google has updated the Google Analytics real-time reports to show real-time data in the last five minutes. Previously, Google only showed users in the last 30 minutes but now Google is showing both, 30 minutes and 5 minutes. -
Google Search Can Now Index Electronic Publication (EPUB)
Google Search can now index Electronic Publication, the .epub, file type. Google added EPUB as a supported filetype to the file types indexable by Google help documentation. -
New Google Search Profiles With Reviews & Notes
Google is rolling out new profile pages that shows you the reviews and notes you left across Google Search. And starting on June 24 your reviews and notes may be public to other Google users. -
Google Partner Bike – Full Size Edition
We have seen Google partner bikes, they look like bikes made for smaller children. But Anthony Higman recently posted a photo of a new Google Partner bike he received that looks full-sized. -
Search News Buzz Video Recap: Google Ranking Volatility, Ads In Google AI Overviews, Sundar Pichai Interview, Heartfelt Helpful Content & More Ad News
We had more Google search ranking volatility in the middle of the week after some calming for a few days. Google Ads will soon show within the Google AI Overview, plus we covered a lot more ad news. Sundar Pichai was interviewed…
Other Great Search Threads:
- is these cool graphs new shows up for winter/summer (city name) temperature queries, Gagan Ghotra on X
- Google AI overview suggests adding glue to get cheese to stick to pizza, and it turns out the source is an 11 year old Reddit comment from user F*cksmith, Peter Yang on X
- Google Podcasts Manager is going away – of course, Barry Schwartz on X
- I encourage you to apply the #googenough tag your suboptimal Google search results. If you do, it’ll be easy for the @Goog_Enough account to collect and amplify these SERPs and AI Overviews. I do not run that account. I don’t have the t, AJ Kohn on X
- To clarify a bit, I don’t work in Support or in a support role. I do try to help where I can but am not in a position to provide it at scale. My role is to share insights on how ads products and, AdsLiaison on X
- Today’s #GoogleDoodle is nacho average treat. It’s all about chilaquiles: the crispy, cheesy tortilla snack that’s a fiesta in every bite! Learn more, Google Doodles on X
Search Engine Land Stories:
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Links & Content Marketing
Local & Maps
Mobile & Voice
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PPC
Search Features
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