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Daily Search Forum Recap: December 7, 2022
Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.
Google is rolling out an updated Google helpful content update/system, I cover everything we are seeing about this update. Google launched the topics search bar refinement feature it has been testing for a while. Google added a disclaimer to the appointment provider links in the local panel. Google Chrome added three new search shortcuts. And 40% of SEOs think link building is as effective as it was years ago.
Search Engine Roundtable Stories:
- December 2022 Google Helpful Content Update Rolling Out With Global Impact
Google has officially confirmed the launch of the second release of the Google helpful content update/system. It started lightly on December 5th but became noticeable, according to Google, on December 6th, which is why Google did not announce it until the 6th. This update adds new signals, most notably making it work for all languages globally – it is not just looking at English content anymore. - Google Launches +Topic Search Bar Refinements After Several Months Of Testing
Back in July we reported that Google was testing a new more dynamic search bar refinement option that adds keywords to the filters at the top under the search bar. Then Google demoed that feature at Search On and this week, Google is now rolling out the feature. - Poll: 40% Of SEOs Say Link Building Is As Effective As It Always Was
We have heard a lot from Google recently that links are just not as significant of a ranking factor in Google Search as they used to be. But 40% of SEOs still feel link building is as effective now compared to a few years ago. 60% of SEOs think it is less effective compared to a few years ago. - Google Local Panel Adds Disclaimer To Appointment Providers Links
Google has added a disclaimer to the appointment provider links that you find in the Google Search local panel and in the Google Maps business listings. The disclaimer partially reads under the “about these providers,” adding “providers are listed in random order.” - Search Chrome Tabs, Bookmarks & History
Google announced three new ways to search in Chrome – including search your tabs, your bookmarks and your history. You can search with three new site search shortcuts directly built into the Chrome address bar, with @tabs, @bookmarks and @history. - Google Dublin Office Tower Viewer
We saw a tower viewer, those binoculars at the top of buildings, from the Google Brazil office. But did you know the Google Dublin office has one as well? Here is a photo on Instagram I found of this
Other Great Search Threads:
- This is bad. Heads-up to check your Bing listing. It looks like Bing pulls in your Facebook reviews, but then if they’re spam and you delete them from FB, they will live on forever on your Bing listing. Now I gotta figure out, Darren Shaw on Twitter
- If you disallow crawling of a page that has a noindex, Google won’t see that noindex. Also, robotstxt shouldn’t be used as a tool for canonicalization., Gary Illyes on Mastodon
- Sitemap.xml – Should Images (CDN Urls) be in the main sitemap? : TechSEO, Reddit
- Do you like manga? Google has published manga to illustrate How Search Works. It’s only available in Japanese at the moment, Kenichi Suzuki on Twitter
- GA4 alert “Partial data shown for date range” Ok, I’ve never seen this alert before. GA4 surprise me every day. Did you find other alerts?, Matteo Zambon on Twitter
- The story of Googlebot and the cats …, John Mueller on Mastodon
- Dear SEO Industry, We Need to Talk | LinkedIn, Myriam Jessier
Search Engine Land Stories:
Other Great Search Stories:
Analytics
Industry & Business
Links & Content Marketing
Local & Maps
Mobile & Voice
SEO
PPC
Search Features
Other Search
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Google Discover Showing Older Content Since Follow Feature Arrived

Typically, Google Discover shows content that is less than a day old, but it can show content that is weeks, months, or even years old. However, typically, Google will show more recent content in the Discover feed. Well, that may have changed with the new Google follow feature.
Glenn Gabe, who is a very active Google Discover user, noticed that since the Follow feature rolled out, he has been seeing content that is weeks and months old way more often than before the follow feature rolled out. Glenn wrote on X that “this could also be playing a role. i.e. Google isn’t providing as much recent content, but instead, focusing on providing targeted content based on the topics you are following.”
It makes sense that if you follow a specific topic and if Google Discover only shows the most authoritative types of content, it might be hard for Google to find new content on that topic. So it does make sense that Google may show older content more often for that specific topic you follow.
Here are screenshots Glenn shared:
Have you noticed this in your Discover feed?
Forum discussion at X.
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Google Core Update Done Followed By Intense Search Volatility, New Structured Data, Google Ads Head Steps Down & 20 Years Covering Search

Google’s November 2023 core update finally finished rolling out this week, and it was the longest core update rollout. Then, a day later, we saw more intense Google search ranking volatility and chatter. Google added new organization structured data and also added a new profile page and discussion forum structured data, both with Search Console and Rich Results test support. Google’s crawl rate setting is going away soon. Google Search Console went down a couple of times this week. Google spoke about the SEO value of bringing back 404 pages for links. Did you see the Google patent for what appears to be SGE? Microsoft is working to bring GPT-4 Turbo to Copilot and Bing Chat. Google Ads won’t allow personalized ads for consumer finance topics in February 2024. Google Local Service Ads has new impression metrics. Google Ads released its Ads API schedule for 2024. Google is testing Gray accepted labels in the search results. Google is testing line separators between sitelinks. Google is testing an interview label for news results. Google local photos is testing hearts and other emotion reactions. Google is testing removing the cache link from the search result listings. Google’s head of search ads, Jerry Dischler, is stepping down after 15 years. And I’ve been covering the search industry and search for 20 years now. And if you want to help sponsor those vlogs, go to patreon.com/barryschwartz. That was the search news this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.
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Generative Summaries For Search Results

Google has a published patent named “Generative summaries for search results” which is believed to be the patent behind the Search Generative Experience launch we saw earlier this year. This patent was filed on March 20, 2023 and approved on September 26, 2023 under the patent ID US11769017B1.
Juan Gonzalez Villa posted a thread on X breaking it down, which I will embed below so you can read it.
The abstract reads:
At least selectively utilizing a large language model (LLM) in generating a natural language (NL) based summary to be rendered in response to a query. In some implementations, in generating the NL based summary additional content is processed using the LLM. The additional content is in addition to query content of the query itself and, in generating the NL based summary, can be processed using the LLM and along with the query content—or even independent of the query content. Processing the additional content can, for example, mitigate occurrences of the NL based summary including inaccuracies and/or can mitigate occurrences of the NL based summary being over-specified and/or under-specified.
Here are Juan’s posts:
Before we start: there are currently no other patents assigned to Google mentioning generative AI techniques and search.
There might be other patents on the same topic still pending, but I believe this document is highly relevant to Google SGE as it works right now. pic.twitter.com/L4Ly5Ows2c
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
1. Receiving a query associated with a client device. The query can be explicitly entered by a user or automatically generated based on context.
2. Selecting a set of search result documents (SRDs) that are responsive to the query and related or recent queries.
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
4. Processing the SRD content snippets using an LLM to generate LLM output. An optional summarization prompt can also be included.
5. Generating a natural language summary using the LLM output. This leverages robustness of the LLM while constraining it to the SRD content.
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
This checks out with something stated in the document “An Overview of SGE”, made public by Google around SGE’s launch, although we didn’t have any more details.
The patent now provides plenty of detail around how and why several models are available and can be used: pic.twitter.com/U035N35Bxl
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
3. The selection can be based on:
• Processing the query with a classifier to predict best model(s)
• Detecting certain terms in the query to indicate suitable model(s)
• Considering search result types/content to determine appropriate model(s)— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
So by dynamically selecting from multiple candidate generative models, the invention aims to optimize accuracy and efficiency by choosing the most suited model(s) for any given query.
The patent also provide some details on how the links to sources work:
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
1. “A portion, of a visually rendered NL summary, that is supported by a first SRD can be selectable (and optionally underlined, highlighted, and/or otherwise annotated).
A selection of the portion can result in navigating to a link corresponding to the first SRD.”
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
3. The links can be general links to the SRDs or specific anchor links to the portions that provide the verification.
4. The linkified portions can be determined based on comparing the summary content to SRD content using encoder models to identify verified portions. pic.twitter.com/zlJFFO2c6Q
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
Here’s how confidence works, according to the patent:
1. Confidence measures can be generated for portions of the summary or for the summary as a whole.
The confidence measures are then used to determine which confidence annotation from a set of candidates should be applied.
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
3. A textual “high confidence”, “medium confidence”, or “low confidence” annotation can be annotated for the NL based summary as a whole.
Each of the portions of the NL based summary can be annotated with a corresponding color that reflects a degree of confidence in that portion
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
Thanks for reading so far.
Here’s the link to the patent: https://t.co/AtGMiWqzG9
Now, I’ll explain how I found out about this patent, and another interesting thing:
What Google SGE and Featured Snippets have in common… 🤓⤵
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
According to his own career summary, he worked in SGE at Google between Nov 2022 and Sep 2023. He is now a Google Fellow, the highest rung on the ladder for Google engineers, which they reach thanks to “consistently outstanding accomplishments”. pic.twitter.com/aZmpfkajmI
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
Their careers afterwards were very similar: they both went to Apple, where they worked in Search and Siri, and came back to Google at the end of 2022 to work in SGE.
So… how did I find the patent? I decided to look for patents by any of these two engineers and there it was. 💡 pic.twitter.com/1uUPi9myoj
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
Their careers afterwards were very similar: they both went to Apple, where they worked in Search and Siri, and came back to Google at the end of 2022 to work in SGE.
So… how did I find the patent? I decided to look for patents by any of these two engineers and there it was. 💡 pic.twitter.com/1uUPi9myoj
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
If you enjoyed this thread, any feedback, likes and/or RTs are appreciated.
Also, here’s a post version of this thread:https://t.co/JSt9qNcVTr
— Juan González Villa (@seostratega) November 29, 2023
Nice write up Juan!
Forum discussion at X.
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