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Glenn Gabe On Google Broad Core Updates

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In part one with Glenn Gabe, we talk about Bing chat and Google Bard and also the use of AI-generated content, in part two we dig more into E-E-A-T and how AI tools may replace us all. Now we move into Google broad core updates.

Glenn actually called these updates Phantom updates before Google called them anything. Glenn does a lot of work around these broad core updates, and he is probably the most respected person in this space.

Glenn is very sensitive on social media when it comes to people belittling these broad core updates. These updates can sometimes wipe businesses out, lay off employees and see massive declines in income. Many of these companies did not mean to do anything wrong. So he has to have hard conversations with these companies because these are hard times for many of them.

CNBC even cited Glenn Gabe when tons of sites were hit hard by this. It was a wild time. We then briefly spoke about another broad core update that Google refused to confirm, which we called the Medic update.

Glenn said when it comes to recoveries after these core updates, you can sometimes recover, sometimes do better, and sometimes never fully recover. But the hard part is when he has to tell customers to cut their ads on their site and show less revenue-generating ads, that is a hard conversation to have. We spoke about what happens when these core updates become real-time, what happens then. Right now, Google cannot do it in real-time, Glenn said based on speaking with Paul Haahr at Google but one day it might come. But Penguin went real time and Panda became part of the core algorithm, Glenn said it went away, which it did – i.e. Coati.

Part two is coming soon, but for now, you can learn more about Glenn Gabe on Twitter at @glenngabe or on LinkedIn.


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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 11, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Google is testing a new ad label header, it makes the ads stick out more. Google Search ranking volatility is still incredibly heated, even over a week after the core update finished. Google is sending out verification notices to Local Service Ads advertisers. Bing is testing a local pack with review source icons. Google AdSense is expanding auto ads to more languages. Google Search has a new video property for ineligible regions.


Search Engine Roundtable Stories:

Other Great Search Threads:

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Other Great Search Stories:

Industry & Business

Links & Content Marketing

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Mobile & Voice

SEO

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Other Search

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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 10, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Apple Visual Intelligence is Apple’s version of Google Lens but it uses Google, ChatGPT, Yelp and others. Google AI Overviews are showing for commercial queries again, showing product and shopping results. A new report on AI Overviews says about half of the links in the AI Overviews overlap with the traditional organic results. Google is showing Business Profile photos on its review sentiments. And Bing Search has a footer message to search again.


Search Engine Roundtable Stories:


  • Apple Visual Intelligence – Local, Shopping & More


    Apple had its big event yesterday, and during the iPhone talk, they announced Apple Visual Intelligence. Where you can take photos of anything, and it will use Apple Intelligence for local search, shopping, homework help, and more.

  • Google AI Overviews Show Shopping Results For Commercial Queries Again


    Google is bringing back shopping and product results in the AI Overviews for commercial queries. I’ll be honest, I don’t remember them going away but I am told they have now returned. Maybe they went away with the Ray update, when Google restricted how often AI Overviews showed.

  • Report: Half Google AI Overviews Links Overlap With Top Search Results


    A new Google AI Overview study says that about half of the links displayed in the AI Overviews overlap with the links shown in the traditional Google Search results. Plus, the most linked to sources are YouTube and Wikipedia, according to the new report.

  • Google Maps Showing Business Photos On Review Sentiments


    Google is now showing business submitted photos from Google Business Profiles in the Google Local and Maps review sentiments section. So above the reviews, Google may show photos submitted by the business, related to those reviews.

  • Bing Search Footer Message To Encourage More Searches


    Microsoft is testing, showing a notice at the bottom of the Bing search results that says, “Search by typing anything on the keyboard.” This happens when you reach the footer of the Bing Search results. When you start typing, your characters appear in the search box for a new Bing Search session.

  • Google Flying Dutchman Cafe In Netherlands Office


    Here is a photo from the Google Netherlands office, they have a cafe there named the Flying Dutchman cafe. This is the salad station in that cafe and you can see the art on the walls.

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Local & Maps

Mobile & Voice

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Search Features

Other Search

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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 9, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Google Ads will sunset enhanced CPC in March 2025. Google Business Profiles sends out broken appointment link notifications. Bing doesn’t yet use ProductGroup markup, but may use it soon. Bing treats 308 redirects like 301 redirects. Bing is testing a button for shopping results named “see details.”


Search Engine Roundtable Stories:


  • Google Ads Saying Goodbye To Enhanced CPC In March 2025


    Google Ads emailed advertisers using Enhanced cost-per-click (eCPC) to let them know that in March 2025, Enhanced CPC will be sunset and any campaigns using Enhanced CPC will be migrated to Manual CPC bidding.

  • Google Business Profile Appointment Link Broken Notifications


    Google is emailing some businesses when it detects that their Google Business Profile appointment link is not working. Google’s email says, “Fix your business Google link.”

  • Bing Treats 308 Redirects Same As 301 Redirects


    Fabrice Canel from Microsoft said that Bing Search treats 308 redirects the same as they treat 301 redirects. This is the same as what Google said back in 2021, although Google has been a bit wishy-washy on redirects over the years.

  • Bing May Use ProductGroup Markup In The Future


    Microsoft Bing may use ProductGroup markup in the future for its “captions” in the Bing Search results. Fabrice Canel from Microsoft said while they do not support it yet, “it’s on our radar” and “the team is closely monitoring its adoption.”

  • Bing Product Search Results With See Details Button


    Bing is testing a big blue “see details” button for some of the product listings in its search results. Normally when you hover your mouse cursor over the products, they expand a little but now they are also showing a blue button to “see details.”



  • Google European France Fence


    Here is the fence in front of the Google office in Paris, France, I believe. It is one of those European castle-like fences, but the polls are in the Google red, blue, green, and yellow colors.

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