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Google Again Says No EAT Score But It’s Indirectly In The Search Ranking Algorithm

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Google Again Says No EAT Score But It's Indirectly In The Search Ranking Algorithm

It has been some time since I covered the topic of E-A-T (expertise, authoritativeness and trustworthiness) here. But John Mueller of Google was asked this on Friday at the 10:30 mark. John said that while there is no E-A-T score that Google uses, E-A-T is important and is in the search ranking algorithm in an indirect way.

John said “assume that there is some indirect kind of work done to try to to do similar things, yes” when asked if E-A-T, specific to expertise and authoritativeness, is in the “real algorithms.” John continued to explain that if Google spends the time to put it in the search quality raters guidelines then “we think that it’s something important and then you can “assume that folks on the quality search quality side” who work on the ranking algorithms will work with it in some way.

John however reiterated that “I wouldn’t see like there’s like an EAT score,” something we covered before. It is not like a score “you have to get five or something like that on it,” he explained. “It’s more kind of like trying to understand the context of the content on the web and that’s very i don’t know fuzzy area,” he added.

Just some history, Google said before in 2020 Google does not explicitly measure EAT, in 2019, Google said they don’t have an EAT score. In early 2020, Google said it’s systems don’t look for EAT but later in 2020, Google said it hopes its system does align with EAT. Google however has been adding mentions of E-A-T to its search help docs.

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Here is the transcript:

Question: I have some questions about EAT. In quality raters guidelines the authors, expertise are important so do you think it’s also important for a real algorithm? I mean EAT is just mentioned in quality of raters guidelines but I want to know if real algorithms also care about EAT factors like authors, experts?

Answer: I would assume that there is some indirect kind of work done to try to to do similar things, yes. I mean we put this in the guidelines so that we can kind of guide the quality testers to to double check these things and if we think that it’s something important then I would assume that folks on the quality search quality side also work to try to understand that in a more algorithmic way. But I wouldn’t see like there’s like an EAT score and you have to get five or something like that on it.It’s more kind of like trying to understand the context of the content on the web and that’s very i don’t know fuzzy area.

Glenn Gabe’s summary on Twitter:

Forum discussion at Twitter.




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Google Search App Stopped Working For A Few Hours Last Night

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Broken Google Phone

The Google Search App stopped working last night for a few hours. Google was quick to fix it in the middle of the night but by then, hundreds, if not, thousands of complaints flooded the support forums and social media.

This impacted a “large number of users searching on the Google app on Android,” Google confirmed. When they loaded the Google Search App or any of its widgets, a message would pop up that says “Google keeps stopping.”

Here is one of many screenshots I saw in the Google Search Support forums:

Google Search App Stopped Working

The issue started at about midnight last night and lasted for a few hours until it was resolved.

You can see the non stop complaints in the Google Search Support forums about the issue if you scroll down to that time frame. There is also this massive Reddit thread with complaints.

9to5Google was the only other site reporting on this issue, as far as I can tell.

Google wrote:

There’s an ongoing issue with serving in Google Search that’s affecting a large number of users searching on the Google app on Android. We’re working on identifying the root cause. Next update will be within 12 hours.

That was given a timestamp at 2:07 AM ET but I believe the issue started a couple of hours prior.

Google said the issue was fully resolved at 4:11 AM ET.

If you noticed a dip in your Android traffic from Google between that time, this may be why.

Forum discussion at Google Web Search Help and Reddit.

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Google Ranking Volatility, Apple Intelligence, Navboost, Ads, Bing & Local

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Google Ranking Volatility, Apple Intelligence, Navboost, Ads, Bing & Local


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Well over a week after the Google August 2024 core update finished, we still have a ton of volatility. Apple Visual Intelligence was demoed at the Apple event this week, it is neat. I covered a bunch of statements on Navboost over the years from Googlers and others. Google replaced the cache link with a link to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine. Google added a spam warning to the Indexing API documentation. A new report shows that about half of the links in the AI Overviews are from the top traditional search results. Google is showing AI Overviews for commercial shopping queries again. Google is testing a new interface for AI Overviews. Google said Exif data is not used for rankings. Google Search now supports a new ineligible region property. Bing may use ProductGroup markup in the future. Bing also treats 308 redirects like 301 redirects. Google Ads is sunsetting eCPC in March 2025. Google Ads is testing a new ad label design. Google Ads introduced confidential matching for privacy reasons. Google is emailing LSA advertisers about verification requirements. There has been an increase in complaints from advertisers about fraud in the Google Ads Search Partner Network. Google Business Profiles emails about broken appointment links. Google Maps shows business photos in reviews. Bing is testing Facebook and Yelp icons in the reviews in the local pack. That was the search news this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.

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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 13, 2024

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Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.


Google Ads is launching confidential matching, a new privacy-centric ad feature. Google is testing a new AI Overview interface. Advertisers are complaining about fraud on the Search partner network. Google is testing for reference boxes in search. Google is testing search results without breadcrumbs. Plus, I posted my weekly SEO video recap.

Search Engine Roundtable Stories:


  • Search News Buzz Video Recap: Google Ranking Volatility, Apple Intelligence, Navboost, Ads, Bing & Local


    Well over a week after the Google August 2024 core update finished, we still have a ton of volatility. Apple Visual Intelligence was demoed at the Apple event this week…

  • Google Ads Introduces Confidential Matching


    Google Ads announced what it calls “confidential matching.” Confidential matching is a “way to securely connect your first-party data for our measurement and audience solutions,” Google said. And it will be used on Google Ads in numerous areas.


  • Google Tests AI Overview With Small “More” Link


    Google is testing removing the large “show more” button and replacing it with a small “more” link at the bottom of the AI Overview snippet. Also, the AI Overview header and Gemini logo at the top left is being removed, or at least being tested being removed.

  • Complaints On Google Ads Search Partners Network Fraud


    I am seeing a spike in complaints from the PPC community around there being an increase in fraudulent traffic from the Google Ads Search Partner network. Many have seen an unusual spike in fraud from that network in the past week, say some advertisers.

  • Google Testing For Reference Search Box


    Google is testing a new search box named “for reference” which is placed under a set of search results and contains more news articles related to the query. This seems similar to some other features Google has tested over the years.

  • Google Tests Search Result Snippets Without Breadcrumbs


    Google is testing showing search results snippets without the breadcrumbs in the URL section of the snippet. Google has tested removing URLs and breadcrumbs completely before, but now Google is testing removing just the breadcrumb and leaving the URL.

  • Hummus Party At Google Dublin


    Here is some sort of event where there are a bunch of Googlers eating hummus, and other dips, with pita bread, at the Google office in Dublin, Ireland.

Other Great Search Threads:

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Other Great Search Stories:

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Industry & Business

Links & Content Marketing

Local & Maps

Mobile & Voice

SEO

PPC

Search Features

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