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Google Not Rolling Back The September 2023 Helpful Content Update
Google’s John Mueller said it is very unlikely that the search company will roll back the last Google update, the September 2023 Google helpful content update. The update is currently rolling out, first touching down on September 14th, and has really wreaked havoc for some SEOs.
John wrote on X this morning, “I really don’t see a rollback happening. And, I agree it is sad to see people put their heart & passion into making something and not seeing long-term results, but things can be both heart-made & not as helpful as the makers want.”
He added on X, “To be direct, I don’t see us rolling this update back. Also, none of this was done to spite anyone – we want to *highlight* fantastic, helpful, unique, compelling, “people-first” content in search, and we will continue to work on our algorithms to move in that direction.”
It seems Google strongly believes this last helpful content iteration is doing the job it set out to do.
Does that mean it can’t do a better job? Nope, he is not saying that.
John added, “Oh yes, there’s still a lot more to do, as always. There’s a lot of low-effort stuff online that people don’t really want to find. There’s also spam, and useless AI-generated stuff. It sounds like you’re saying we should turn up the dials more?”
But Google has more work to do, always, he said, “No, I mean, we’re not retiring and stopping work. There’s always more to do. User expectations grow, people put differing kinds of content online, and separating the awesome from the mediocre is not always trivial. Let me know when AI can take over, I could use a break. :-)”
He added that Google may get it wrong, “I’m sure there are cases where we get it wrong, and I’d love to have those examples if you can get them to me. That said, a lot of “authority” blogs are created by folks who didn’t even know which topic to pick beforehand, so I’d struggle to call them real authorities.”
And yes, there is more to come like surfacing hidden gems and going after hosted third-party content – all of that is not done.
Here are those tweets:
I really don’t see a rollback happening. And, I agree it is sad to see people put their heart & passion into making something and not seeing long-term results, but things can be both heart-made & not as helpful as the makers want.
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
To be direct, I don’t see us rolling this update back. Also, none of this was done to spite anyone – we want to *highlight* fantastic, helpful, unique, compelling, “people-first” content in search, and we will continue to work on our algorithms to move in that direction.
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
Oh yes, there’s still a lot more to do, as always. There’s a lot of low-effort stuff online that people don’t really want to find. There’s also spam, and useless AI-generated stuff. It sounds like you’re saying we should turn up the dials more?
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
The problem I often see is that the “website” is just respinning Reddit content, often even indirectly. I’d much prefer to get the original, hands-on posts, written by people who actually did what they’re writing about. 5 years old? Still better than a month-old AI/cheap rewrite.
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
Have you not seen the trend of people adding “reddit” to their searches because they’re tired of the low-effort, low-cost content sites are pushing out? Heck, even the low-effort affiliate sites are adding “reddit” to their titles. Hello.
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
I’m sure there are cases where we get it wrong, and I’d love to have those examples if you can get them to me. That said, a lot of “authority” blogs are created by folks who didn’t even know which topic to pick beforehand, so I’d struggle to call them real authorities.
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
No, I mean, we’re not retiring and stopping work. There’s always more to do. User expectations grow, people put differing kinds of content online, and separating the awesome from the mediocre is not always trivial. Let me know when AI can take over, I could use a break. 🙂
— Hey John, Your profile caught my eye. Ouch. (@JohnMu) September 24, 2023
So stay tuned, more is to come but this rollout is going to stick and you won’t see this being reverted. Again, this does not mean you won’t recover when the next helpful content update rolls out or if a core update rolls out or another unconfirmed Google search ranking update rolls out but this helpful content update is doing what Google wanted it to do, for the most part.
In fact, Google has not seen a Google ranking update where things went completely wrong requiring a rollback.
Note: I am posting stories today, Sunday, because tomorrow is Yom Kippur and I am not posting anything on Yom Kippur.
Forum discussion at X.
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Daily Search Forum Recap: September 30, 2024
Here is a recap of what happened in the search forums today, through the eyes of the Search Engine Roundtable and other search forums on the web.
The Google Search ranking volatility won’t calm down, we have another volatile weekend. Google may have penalized the Forbes Advisor site. We have another interview with Google’s Danny Sullivan, this one done by Aleyda Solis. Google Search Console recommendations are not fully rolled out yet. Google updated its Google Shopping interface. Google Local Service Ads has TCPL (Target Cost Per Lead).
Search Engine Roundtable Stories:
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Google Search Ranking Volatility & Shuffles This Weekend
Google will not, refused to, calm down, and the ranking volatility, the shuffling of the search results, remains constant. This weekend, probably starting on Friday, September 27th, through the whole weekend, we are seeing even more signs of movement and volatility. -
Did Google Hit Forbes Advisor With A Search Penalty Over Site Reputation Abuse?
Google may have hit Forbes Advisor with a manual action, downgrading its rankings over maybe the site reputation abuse policy. Lars Lofgren wrote about this marketplace, as he put it, on September 18th and then a week or so later, it looks like it was hit by a Google manual action. -
Another Interview With Google’s Search Liaison: Big Brands, UGC Content, AI Overviews & Future
Danny Sullivan, the Google Search Liaison, has been interviewed again – this time by Alyeda Solis. It is pretty similar to my interview with Google’s Search Liason, but this one is recorded and available for everyone to watch. -
Google Search Console Recommendations Not Fully Rolled Out
About 8 weeks ago, Google announced Google Search Console Recommendations and rolled it out to a limited number of properties within the platform. Google said the roll out will be slow and yea, it is slow. Daniel Waisberg from Google confirmed on Friday that it is not fully rolled out yet. -
Google Local Service Ads TCPL (Target Cost Per Lead)
Google seems to be rolling out a new bidding option for Local Service Ads named Target cost-per-lead (tCPL) bidding. Target cost-per-lead (tCPL) bidding is a semi-automated smart bid strategy. You set your desired average cost per lead, and Local Services Ads automatically adjusts bids to aim for that target. -
Google Shopping Interface Updated With Expandable Refinements
Earlier this month, we reported that Google was testing a new Google Shopping Search interface. Well, Google may have rolled it out now. There is the new logo, with a more e-commerce like interface and then these large search refinement boxes. -
Big YouTube Button & Glowing Blocks
Here is a photo from the Google offices in Tel Aviv of a guy sitting on a really big YouTube button, next to a stack of glowing red blocks.
Other Great Search Threads:
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Other Great Search Stories:
Analytics
Industry & Business
Links & Content Marketing
Local & Maps
Mobile & Voice
SEO
- AI crawlers are hammering sites and nearly taking them offline, Fast Company
- JSON–LD vs Microdata Revisited, Search Pilot
- Proving the value of organic investment in SEO, Blue Array SEO
- Unpacking NerdWallet’s SEO: 10 Things I Discovered , Ahrefs
- Website duration performance based on category durations, Kopp Consulting
- SEO Dashboard in Google Sheets, Hobo
- 8 SEO Hiring Managers Share Their #1 Interview Question, Ahrefs
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Google Volatility With Gains & Losses, Updated Web Spam Policies, Cache Gone & More Search News
Google Search rankings gains were lost for many, followed more more volatility this week. Google updated its web search spam policies, with a focus on site reputation abuse. Google’s cache operator is now fully dead. Google’s site command for image search seems broken. Google fixed a Search Console reporting bug with product snippets. Google Maps has this fake reviews notice on business profiles. There may have been a spike in reviewed removed by Google on September 17th. Also small changes to your business listing may now trigger re-verification on Google Business Profiles. Google merchant listings now added priceType and sale pricing examples. Google spoke about image SEO and the importance of the embedded page. Google is testing new shopping/product cards on the search results. Google is testing “from small businesses” carousel. Google is testing “states in the news” and “backstory” sections for top stutters. Google product detail grids is testing most popular and best price labels. Google is testing for you labels and preferred source labels. Google Ads has a ten sitelinks but it is a bug. We had a poll on if you are using traditional search less now with AI products out. That was the search news this week at the Search Engine Roundtable.
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Google’s 26th Birthday Doodle Is Missing
Today is the day Google would be celebrating its birthday or anniversary – September 27th. As Google posted last year, On September 27, 1998, Google Inc. was officially born.
But if you go to Google.com, there is no Doodle on the home page to celebrate. Google generally, but not always, has a special birthday Doodle, unless there is another event they want to commemorate on September 27th.
Instead, all you see is the classic Google logo on the Google home page:
Last year, Google had their 25th birthday Doodle that went through all the old Google logos over the years:
They went all out for their 25th birthday, a lot of events, parties, and celebrations.
Maybe this year, with all the legal issues and troubles, Google is not in the mood to celebrate. Maybe with all the new AI competition, they are feeling sluggish? Maybe with all the search ranking wonkiness, they are feeling tired? I am not sure.
I did email Google’s press team to get a statement and if I hear back, I’ll add it here.
Here are the past Doodles on this date:
Just note, in the old days, Google couldn’t decide on when it was its birthday. Google celebrated the birthday on September 7th, September 8th, September 26th, even on September 4th, but in the most recent years, Google has been consistent with September 27th.
Happy 26th birthday Google – I guess?
Forum discussion at X.
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