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Snap: Downgrading To ‘Hold’ As Turnaround Has Been Slow (NYSE:SNAP)

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Back in March, I said that while Snap (NYSE:SNAP) was facing a number of issues that it had a valuable platform and expectations were low for the company. Since then, the stock is down -14% versus a 7% increase for the S&P 500. Let’s catch up on the name.
Company Profile
As a quick reminder, SNAP is a social media company whose primary offering is Snapchat, a messaging app where users share videos, photos, texts, and other forms of media. Users can apply filters, graphics, stickers, and animation to photos and videos using one of SNAP’s over one million different lenses. The platform also has other features such as Snap Map, Stories and Spotlight. The company generally generates most of its revenue from advertising, although it does as a subscription service as well.
Q3 Results
For the most-recent quarter, SNAP saw revenue increase 5% to $1.13 billion. That topped the analyst consensus of $1.11 billion. North American revenue fell -3% to $786 million. European revenue jumped 24% to $200 million, while Rest of World revenue soared 20% to $202 million.
The company saw its Snapchat+ subscription service reach more than 5 million subs and revenue grow more than 250%. Based on its $3.99 monthly cost, that would be about $60 million in revenue by my calculation.
Average revenue per user (ARPU) came in at $2.93, down -6% from $3.11 a year ago. However, it increased 9% sequentially from $2.69.
North American ARPU fell -4% to $7.82 from $8.13 and was up 14% quarter over quarter. European ARPU jumped 15% to $2.11 from $1.83 and was up 9% sequentially. Rest of World ARPU climbed 8% to 96 cents, but was down -2% quarter over quarter.
A big part of my earlier thesis was that SNAP had some nice room to improve its ARPU, especially outside the U.S. That has been happening. However, U.S. APRU has struggled, as advertisers overall started to pull back on spending earlier this year. Now there has been some sequential improvement as advertising spending has returned, but SNAP is not seeing as big as a positive impact as many others such as Meta (META), owner of Facebook and Instagram, and “Buy” rated Pinterest (PINS), which saw a 5.4% year over year jump in North American ARPU. That shows advertisers are coming back, but spending their marketing dollars on other platforms.
Daily active users (DAUs) jumped 12% to 406 million and was up 2% sequentially. North America DAUs rose 1% to 101 million users and was flat quarter over quarter. European DAUs climbed 7% to 95 million and rose 1% sequentially. ROW DAUs soared 21% to 211 million and increased 4% quarter over quarter.
SNAP DAU (Company Presentation)
This is nice gain for SNAP and shows its growing popularity. However, most of this in coming from regions that have much lower monetization, so without the bigger ARPU increases it doesn’t have a huge impact on numbers.
Adjusted EBITDA came in at $40.1 million, down -45% from $72.6 million a year ago. The company had $357.9 million in stock-based comp in the quarter that gets removed from EBITDA. I’ve long said, stock based comp is a real expense, and the fact the company will buy back shares to offset the dilution shows this. As such, the positive EBITDA number doesn’t indicate the stock is profitable in my view.
Adjusted EPS came in at 2 cents, surpassing analyst estimates by 7 cents. It recorded adjusted EPS of 8 cents a year ago. This number once again removes stock comp.
SNAP generated $12.7 million in operating cash flow, while free cash flow was -$60.7 million.
Looking ahead, the company said it was imprudent to provide formal Q4 guidance but that its internal forecast is for revenue of between $1.32-1.375 billion, representing between 2-6% growth. It is projecting EBITDA of between $65-105 million. It is looking to reach between 410-412 DAUs in the quarter.
Asked on its earnings call why the company was predicting a deceleration in Q4 compared to Q3, CFO Derek Andersen said:
“As we move into Q4, Q4 is a little bit different as a quarter. Historically, we’ve seen a little bit larger share of the revenue coming from brand products in Q4. And then the Q4 business being a little bit more back-end weighted than other quarters historically as well. So both of those things sort of impacting visibility and brand having grown at a slower rate in Q3, and being a larger share of the business in Q4 sort of brings a little bit of a mix shift headwind. And then last, the point that you raised very specifically, which is what we’ve seen since the onset of the war in the Middle East is, we have had a number of primarily brand-oriented campaigns pause spending in the early period after the onset of the war there in the Middle East. I will say that we have seen a lot of those campaigns resume spending. And the impact to our daily run rate has reduced significantly as a result of that. But we also have seen a very small amount of incremental campaign positives triple in more recently. And so one of the things that we’ve tried to do here when we’re thinking about giving forward-looking information for Q4 is, number one, be transparent about what we’ve seen quarter-to-date on that side. And then — I think when we look back historically, for example, to what we all experienced at the onset of the war in Ukraine and the impact that, that had on folks’ business and the operating environment. I think we’ve very realized that war is fundamentally unpredictable. And as a result, it would be imprudent to provide a formal guide in that kind of an environment.”
Overall, it was a mixed quarter from SNAP. The company is still seeing solid DAU growth outside of the U.S. and it is also growing ARPU in these regions. Improving ARPU internationally is a big opportunity, so that is a nice positive.
However, ARPU continues to be down meaningfully in North America despite the company continuing to invest a lot of resources into the product for users and advertisers. Now the company did see some sequential improvement, but the continued year over year declines isn’t something you’d like to see, especially when peers are seeing year over year increases as the ad market has started to bounce back.
At the same time, the stock-based comp expenses that the company is paying out is pretty egregious on pace for well over $1.2 billion. While its non-cash, this is a real expense and the company continues to look to buy back shares to offset the dilution from it. This is just shuffling the deck to make EBITDA look better.
Valuation
SNAP trades at a P/S ratio of 3.6x based on the 2023 revenue consensus of $4.61 billion and 3.2x based on the 2024 revenue consensus of $5.18 billion. Its growth for this year is projected at only 0.1%, before climbing over 12% next year.
On an EV/EBITDA basis, it trades at around 171x based on the 2023 consensus of $96.3 million. Based on the 2024 consensus of $269 million, it trades at a around a 61x multiple. These estimates are down monumentally since I last looked at the stock.
SNAP trades at a similar P/S multiple as its social media peers, but at a higher EV/EBITDA multiple. Notably, it and Pinterest (PINS) are still in their earlier days on monetization compared to companies like Meta (META) and Alphabet (GOOGL).
SNAP Valuation Vs Peers (FinBox)
Conclusion
SNAP has a valuable platform that reaches a key marketing demographic. However, the company has struggled to execute, as evidenced by the stock falling after earnings seven straight quarters, and by double digits four of those times. At the same time, while the advertising market for social media has bounced back, competitors have benefited much more than SNAP.
When taking into account its stock-based comp, the company is nowhere near being profitable anytime soon, as adjusted EBITDA is not expected to surpass its $1.2 billion in stock comp until 2028, according to analyst estimates. As a percentage of revenue, stock comp is about 30%, which is a huge amount.
At the end of the day, SNAP is probably best off selling itself to a company that can better operate it and monetize its user base, while taking out costs. However, finding a buyer might not be an easy thing and founders Robert Murphy and CEO Evan Spiegel control over 99% of the company’s voting power.
As such, in this current environment, I think it is best to downgrade the stock to “Hold.” Given the market sell-off, there are better investment opportunities out there.
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TikTok announces $1.5 bn deal to restart Indonesia online shopping business

TikTok has around a billion montly users and its growth among young people far outstrips its competitors – Copyright AFP/File SEBASTIEN BOZON
Chinese-owned short video app TikTok on Monday announced a $1.5 billion investment in GoTo group in a deal that would allow it to restart its online shop in Indonesia, the companies said in a statement.
Under the deal, TikTok Shop will be merged into GoTo’s Tokopedia, and TikTok will have a controlling stake in that entity.
“TikTok has committed to invest over US$1.5 billion in the enlarged entity over time, to provide future funding required by the business, without additional dilution to GoTo,” the Indonesian firm said.
“TikTok, Tokopedia and GoTo will transform Indonesia’s e-commerce sector, creating millions of new job opportunities over the next five years.”
“The strategic partnership will commence with a pilot period carried out in close consultation with and supervision by the relevant regulators,” GoTo said, adding that it expected the deal to close in 2024.
TikTok in October shut down its online shop in Indonesia, one of its biggest markets.
That came days after Southeast Asia’s largest economy banned sales on social media to protect millions of small businesses.
The regulation means social media firms cannot conduct direct transactions but only promote products on their platforms in Indonesia, the first country in the region to act against TikTok’s growing popularity as an e-commerce site.
Indonesia’s e-commerce market is dominated by platforms such as Tokopedia, Shopee and Lazada but TikTok Shop gained a significant market share since launching in 2021.
Indonesia, with 125 million users, is TikTok’s second-largest global market after the United States, according to company figures.
The Indonesian ban came after calls grew for regulation governing social media and e-commerce, with offline sellers seeing their livelihoods threatened by the sale of cheaper products on TikTok Shop and other platforms.
The regulation was yet another setback for TikTok, which has faced intense scrutiny in the United States and other nations in recent months over users’ data security and the company’s alleged ties to the Chinese government.
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TikTok spends $1.5B on Tokopedia JV to get around Jakarta social e-commerce ban

Just two months ago, ByteDance-owned TikTok abruptly closed its shopping platform in Indonesia to comply with surprise regulations from the Southeast Asian country’s government. Jakarta ordered social media companies like TikTok and Facebook to stop selling goods on their platforms, demanding a separation of social media and e-commerce services.
TikTok now seems to have found a way to revive its e-commerce dreams in Indonesia by spending billions to start a joint venture with Indonesian tech giant GoTo. On Monday, the two companies announced that TikTok Shop will now be available on GoTo’s Tokopedia platform.
“Tokopedia and TikTok Shop Indonesia’s businesses will be combined under the existing PT Tokopedia entity in which TikTok will take a controlling stake. The shopping features within the TikTok app in Indonesia will be operated and maintained by the enlarged entity,” TikTok said in a statement Monday.
TikTok will invest over $1.5 billion into Tokopedia, taking a 75% stake in the platform. GoTo will remain an ecosystem partner to Tokopedia and receive an “ongoing revenue stream from Tokopedia commensurate with its scale and growth,” but will not be required to continue funding the platform. Further funding from TikTok also won’t reduce GoTo’s remaining 25% stake.
Getting back into the Indonesian ecommerce market will be a win for TikTok. Indonesia, which is the platform’s largest market outside of the U.S., is key to Tiktok’s online shopping aspirations. In June, CEO Shou Zi Chew pledged to “invest billions in Indonesia and Southeast Asia over the next few years.”
ByteDance wants to replicate its Chinese e-commerce successaround the globe. Last year, consumers spent in China 1.41 trillion yuan ($196 billion) on products sold on Douyin, the version of TikTok for the Chinese market, The Information reported in January. ByteDance, through TikTok, is expanding its online shopping services in both Southeast Asia and the U.S. Yet the company is struggling to win over American consumers: The Information reported in August that U.S. shoppers are spending just $4 million a day, equivalent to $1.4 billion over a whole year, on goods sold on the social media platform. (TikTok officially launched TikTok Shop in the U.S. in September, though sellers have complained about a flood of low-quality products on the platform).
Before Indonesia imposed its ban in September, the country’s president, Joko Widodo, complained that social media platforms were threatening local micro-, small- and medium-sized enterprises. Government officials also accused TikTok of engaging in predatory pricing.
GoTo’s deal with TikTok means the Indonesian tech giant is giving up its majority ownership of Tokopedia . Tokopedia started in 2008 and grew to be one of Indonesia’s largest e-commerce platforms. The company merged with ride-hailing startup GoJek in 2021, becoming GoTo Group. The company debuted on Jakarta’s stock exchange in April last year.
Yet the company has struggled to wow investors since then. GoTo has yet to make a profit since becoming a public company. The tech firm reported 2.4 trillion Indonesian rupiah ($147 million) in net losses last quarter, significantly less than the 6.7 trillion rupiah ($428 million) it lost this time last year.
Investors do not appear to be thrilled by the news of GoTo’s TikTok partnership. Shares fell by over 19% by 2:30pm Indonesia time on Monday, erasing gains made late last week as rumors began to build of the new partnership.
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How to Train ChatGPT to Write in Your Brand’s Tone of Voice [Infographic]
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Are you looking for ways to improve your ChatGPT output? Want to train it to write in a more unique tone of voice, in order to better suit your branding?
The Creative Marketer shares his ChatGPT prompt tips in this infographic. To enact these, add “Write like [INSERT CHARACTER]” at the start of your ChatGPT instructions.
TCM breaks things down into the following categories:
- Innocent
- Sage
- Explorer
- Ruler
- Creator
- Caregiver
- Lover
- Hero
- Everyman
- Magician
- Jester
- Outlaw
Check out the infographic for more information.
A version of this post was first published on the Red Website Design blog.
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